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As interesting as it is to have those testimonies of Mengelberg in rare Dutch repertoire, little of this is truly interesting.

Julius Röntgen’s two Ancient Dances from the Netherlands (“Oud-Nederlandse dansen”, op.

Röntgen’s two “Ancient Dances of the Netherlands” (Nos.

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Three compositions were recorded on 12 April 1940 (CD indicates 9) : Dopper’s Ciaccona Gotica (Telefunken SK3155/7), Hendrik Andriessen’s Magna Res est amor and Rudolf Mengelberg’s Salve Regina op.

20 (Telefunken SK3084/5), the two latter with soprano Jo Vincent.

The piece was apparently dropped from the orchestra’s concert repertoire after 1934, and the last time it was performed was on 10 December 1949, and it was Eduard van Beinum conducting then. Mengelberg” for the arrangement and many online sources have reproduced that info, but I don’t think this is true: the label of the original 78s on Telefunken NK 1965 clearly indicates: “bewerking: Prof. Incidentally, on the 78s label, Valerius is also credited as the original composer, and indeed he transcribed the song in his “Nederlandtsche gedenck-clanck” and also made a choral arrangement in his collection of Church Canticles and Hymns (Liedboek voor de Kerken), but the melody was not his own invention.

In the Concertgebouw’s archive the piece listed as “Wilhelmus” is always attributed to composer “none”, e.g. Certainly: also known as “Wilhelmus van Nassouwe” or “Het Wilhelmus”, it is the Netherlands’ national anthem, and “Marnix von St. A lot of fact-checking for little substance: the anthem is a patriotic-bombastic parade and the Thanksgiving hymn sounds inconspicuous like a harmonized hymn.

Among those for which we have recordings, very few have stepped above the status of local glories (and even then, only with connoisseurs of the off-the-beaten track): Julius Röntgen (1855-1932) and Johan Wagenaar (1862-1941) may qualify (the latter, thanks to the advocacy of Riccardo Chailly when he was one of the successors of Mengelberg at the helm of the Amsterdam Concertgebouw Orchestra, Decca 425 932-2 (1990), barcode 028942583320).

But a check on the great online archive of the Concertgebouw Orchestra, listing all the concerts given by the orchestra since the end of the 19 century, shows that this is due only to the fortunes and mis-fortunes of recording in an era when it wasn’t as common as today.

Dating found on CDs or online is sometimes contradictory, but the best source I’ve found for elucidating these matters is a great online Mengelberg discography (link will open a document in a new tab).

5 & 6, “Bergerette” and “Pavane”) were recorded on 11 November 1940 and released on Telefunken SK3157 Finally Wagenaar’s Cyrano de Bergerac Overture, from 16 April 1942, came on Telefunken SK3744/5.

Wikipedia adds that “the German translation of his most familiar song Wilt Heden Nu Treden (known in English as We Gather Together): Wir treten zum Beten or Altniederländisches Dankgebet (Old Dutch Thanksgiving Prayer), became a potent symbol of the “Throne and Altar” alliance of German civil religion until 1918.

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